Many years later, when Frisk arrives at the coffin room after the True Lab, Oliver climbs out of a coffin and explains to her that he does not have a soul, but he needs one to rematch with Asgore and return to the surface. Oliver and Asgore fought, but Asgore managed to take Oliver's soul. However, when Oliver got to the capital, Asgore made the decision. However Toriel was still queen of the underground, and Asgore had not yet decided to kill all the humans that pass through. By that time, the royal guard was not established, so Oliver did not ever meet Undyne, Sans, Papyrus, Alphys or Mettaton. Ebott 3 months after the death of Chara and Asriel Dreemurr. Oliver was the second human to fall into the underground. He is similar to Asgore in that he doesn't want to fight you, but he knows he has to in order to leave. This is mainly because he doesn't like to talk about his past, but gets angry/serious when the topic comes up. Oliver can be secluded at times, and confrontational at other times. He wears an orange shirt with two blue diagonal stripes across it, forming an X. He has blonde hair and the same skin colour as Chara. When we successfully complete a pacifist run we are using our determination to keep hope alive in the world of monsters.Oliver looks very different from Frisk and Chara, being clearly a boy. When we do a kill-all route it causes Frisk to give into wrath and violence, using determination to achieve destruction Red, the color of blood and fire, is associated with meanings of love, passion, desire, heat, longing, lust, sexuality, sensitivity, romance, joy, strength, leadership, courage, vigor, willpower, rage, anger, danger, malice, wrath, stress, action, vibrance, radiance, and determination The color Red itself has a lot of meaning and just as you say it is connected to wrath, it is also connected to a vast spectrum of things. “Hope being a combination of the desire for something and expectation of receiving it,” “Like all virtues, it arises from the will, not the passions”Īll the Soul virtues arise from “the will” (and the “will to live” is called Determination)
Rather I think that the red virtue is Hope, which is one of the 7 virtues. Flowey, and the save points in a kill-all route) and a virtue inherently has no double standard.
After all we see multiple examples of how Determination can be used for the wrong reasons (ie. Now a lot of people claim that “Determination” is the red virtue, but I disagree. And those seem to be adapted/approximated in game to relate to the 7 Soul Colors. Six out of the seven virtues are referenced when you get the Red Flag in the Snowdin ball game. Yeah, there is also the seven virtues (originating from the 4 Greek cardinal virtues and the 3 theological virtues) that exist in contrast to the seven deadly sins.
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